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Thank you for this interview. As a Duke MPP student a decade-ish ago, unfortunately I didn’t get to audit a class with him. However, a Div school friend of mine at the time had me read Resident Aliens. It was a transformative vantage point for the policy world I live/work in.

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Apr 20, 2023Liked by John Inazu

Thanks, John. Hauerwas always worth listening to. But his admission that 6 January made him more committed to the rule of law than before is kind of telling of a significant blindspot in his political thinking. Wasn't there abundant, overwhelming evidence, pretty much everywhere in the world not least the USA, of the indispensability of the rule of law as a non-negotiable minimum benchmark of

a stable and just society (however imperfect its practice) long before this? I'll keep reading him anyway!

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I've been frustrated by what I perceived as Hauerwas' influence on practical political theology over the years (put very simply as a kind of withdrawal from political life). This interview suggests that he's been misinterpreted. "Endurance" is not withdrawal but rather a particular kind of connection that is powerful in its own way.

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Prof Inazu, I loved this (what I could understand) and I love Hauerwas. Resident Aliens is one of my all-time favorite books and articulates what I believe the church should be in the world.

Great post!

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